Webinar Replay #28: ELD Training for Student Transportation

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Craig Hart: Good morning, everyone.

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Craig Hart: Thanks for joining us welcome to the Fast Forward Expert Roundtable the entry level driver training for student transportation webinar. We appreciate you joining us today.

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Craig Hart: As we’ve got folks signing in here, we’re going to start with some introductions.

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Craig Hart: We don’t have a lot of webinars that we have done for our student transportation folks who are aiming to fix that here and want to bring you up to speed on some.

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Craig Hart: changes that are going to impact, potentially, some of you very dramatically in terms of your recruiting and so forth.

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Craig Hart: To get things started off my name is Craig Hart I’m with Vertical Alliance Group, my background is in remote learning that’s the world I have lived in since 2004.

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Craig Hart: Both within the transportation side of things, and then also within the insurance and financial services worlds as well, so I am very aware of remote learning.

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Craig Hart: And my co-host is Mr. Mark Rhea and mark is, like many of you, he is a former trucking executive he worked for over 30 years with Frozen Food Express, which is a.

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Craig Hart: A reefer refrigerator hauler out of Dallas Texas, so he has managed fleets, he has driven out safety programs to large numbers of drivers he’s.

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Craig Hart: had to do all the unpleasant things as well that come with that such as having to go to court when bad things happen so he has been.

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Craig Hart: where many of you are currently and knows the challenges that you face but he’s also spent time now since he’s retired from Frozen Food Express staying plugged into groups, both within and outside the transportation industry.

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Craig Hart: A lot of education, including working with Community colleges trying to address problems like the electrification of school bus fleet, so he is very much still plugged into that world.

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Craig Hart: And now, our two additional guests with us today, we have JEREMY Rose, JEREMY is our video production manager here at Vertical Alliance Group.

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Craig Hart: he’s basically had his hands on every piece of content that we have generated for our organization, including all the ELDT training.

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Craig Hart: he’s been with us for over 14 years, so if some of you have gone through some of our training, you may recognize his voice.

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Craig Hart: On some of those things as he does do the voiceover for some of that work as well.

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Craig Hart: And then last but certainly not least, is Leslie Smith and Leslie is kind of our guru for all things school related here at Vertical Alliance Group she’s been with us.

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Craig Hart: Over four years and has done and worn many different hats within our organization and she’s going to be a great resource for those of you on the call today who want to hear more so good morning everybody appreciate you joining us how you are doing Mark.

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Mark Rhea: I’m fantastic and I’m excited to listen to what our expert, Mr. JEREMY Rose has to say today on the long anticipated.

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Mark Rhea: rollout of the entry level driver training program that’s been in discussions for years it’s set to go in February, our industry needs this, and this is really a step forward in and you guys in the school bus industry, I know you’re really.

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Mark Rhea: looking for ways to improve your fleet to attract people would encourage you to really stay tuned to this, I think, Jeremy and his team have invested thousands of hours.

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Mark Rhea: producing very high-quality content it’s not only compliant but above compliant with the FMCSA so it’s rolling out and look forward to getting the details in our presentation today.

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Craig Hart: Excellent and JEREMY, Leslie thank you both for being here with us today.

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Craig Hart: Before we get underway, we are going to cover a lot of information in today’s session, and we are going to do.

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Craig Hart: our very best to paint you a picture with our words, but we also understand that some of you may want to go into greater detail on the platform, the content, how it’s delivered how it all works what it looks like.

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Craig Hart: And we do have the ability to host demos, of the Platform that’s something that Leslie will do.

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Craig Hart: takes about 20-30 minutes for her to showcase how the things work so that you can understand how ELDT will slide into either the existing program that you are currently working with or.

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Craig Hart: If you are brand new to our platform has never heard of Vertical Alliance Group before can understand how you can leverage.

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Craig Hart: This system for ELDT and then safety and other things as well, so you can schedule a DEMO with her at that phone number below or you can send her a quick email.

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Craig Hart: And then she can get that on your calendar and then you guys can make that happen so, but without further ado, Jeremy I’m going to turn this over to you.

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Craig Hart: Now one thing before we get started with everyone, this is obviously a situation where we want to answer your questions that you have as you’re going through the platform or going through the presentation with us today rather.

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Craig Hart: The easiest way to do that is to ask us in chat and recommend you open your chat window now.

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Craig Hart: And then, at the bottom there’s a little button that says to, to and select everyone, and that means the questions that you asked can be seen by everyone on the call today.

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Craig Hart: There are no silly questions we’re going to cover a lot of information, probably answer a bunch of your questions with what JEREMY has put together.

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Craig Hart: But you may have questions beyond what we present today and we’re going to work, our darndest to get you some answers so go ahead and open up your chat window, if you want just to let us know who you are where you’re coming from we’d love to know more about you.

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Craig Hart: Excellent alright, and without further ado, Jeremy takes it away.

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Jeremy Rose: awesome Hello everyone, my name is JEREMY Rose I’m the video production manager with Infinit-I Workforce Solutions – Vertical Alliance Group.

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Jeremy Rose: Today I’m here to talk to you about entry level driver training, the new regulations from the FMCSA.

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Jeremy Rose: So first off, please note that this presentation is designed for those that have little to no prior knowledge about what entry level driver training is.

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Jeremy Rose: Or why it’s important if you’re already familiar with the new regulations, then, most of this information will not be new to you, however, you can stick around we’re going to try to answer as many specific questions, as we can.

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Jeremy Rose: Next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: there’s a lot of specific, material to cover in these new regulations more than we have time to go over here in this presentation today.

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Jeremy Rose: If your question is not answered during this presentation like Craig said there will be a Q&A section afterwards, so please don’t hesitate to submit your question.

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Jeremy Rose: Or if you’re the type of person who wants to get your hands dirty or you just like to brush up on things yourself, all of this information is online in the electronic code of federal regulations at www.ECFR.gov.

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Jeremy Rose: Specifically, under Title 49 part 380 at special training requirements.

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Jeremy Rose: You can also find more information about the training provider registry, which we will discuss at length at www.tpr.fmcsa.dot.gov.

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Jeremy Rose: This presentation will focus on general ELDT information, as well as specific information for Class B, S and P endorsements so let’s jump into things.

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Jeremy Rose: Next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: What is entry level driver training beginning February 7, 2022, entry level drivers will be subject to the requirements in the entry level driver training or ELDT regulations.

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Jeremy Rose: The whole purpose of this is to set a minimum standard of training requirements or entry level CDL holders these regulations are established by the FMCSA next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: Who does this apply to this is the important part of these new regulations apply to drivers who are obtaining a class A or class B CDL for the first time.

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Jeremy Rose: upgrading and existing class B CDL to a class A CDL or obtaining a school bus S passenger P or hazardous materials, H endorsement or the first time.

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Mark Rhea: Next, higher JEREMY is the is the ELDT exclusively theory or is there a behind the wheel component as well.

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Jeremy Rose: Absolutely there’s behind the wheel component, we will cover that more in depth here in just a little bit after we establish who all is affected, etc.

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Jeremy Rose: So, what about current CDL holders, the ELDT regulations are not retroactive, meaning that the entry level driver training requirements do not apply to individuals holding a valid CDL.

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Jeremy Rose: or an S, P or H endorsement issued prior to Feb 7, 2022, if an applicant to obtain a commercial his learner’s permit prior to February 7, 2022, obtains a CDL before the CLP or renewed CLP expires.

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Jeremy Rose: than the applicant is not subject to the ELDT requirements, basically, if you have a CDL or you have a CLP and get your CLD before February 7 or do you have a CLP and you get it before that CLP expires than it does not apply to you period next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: what’s the point of all this, the govt regulations establish a federal standard for training CDL applicants must successfully complete this training.

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Jeremy Rose: Before they will be permitted to take the CDL skills test or in the case of the H endorsement, the knowledge test.

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Jeremy Rose: This means that all new entry level drivers should have roughly the same amount of training, when they take their CDL or endorsement tests.

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Jeremy Rose: That desire here is to prevent untrained individuals from obtaining a CDL or endorsement and to make sure that all entry level drivers meet the necessary basic threshold to safely operate a CMV next.

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Jeremy Rose: Now, now that we know who is affected by the ELDT regulations let’s talk about what the training looks like, so there is no federally mandated amount of training time that I driver training must complete for ELDT.

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Jeremy Rose: The FMCSA only requires that the training cover all topics set forth by the FMCSA the required topics are broken into two different sections theory and behind the wheel, behind the wheel is broken into two further sections range and public road.

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Jeremy Rose: As a note Infinit-I Workforce Solutions as a platform only handled online training so I’ll only be covering the theory portion of the training here, but if you have questions about behind the wheel training, please do ask next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: Are there different requirements, the ELDT regulations are the same for Class A and B, as well as the S, P and H endorsements.

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Jeremy Rose: There are no special requirements or regulations that must be followed for the different classes or endorsements outside of the different topics that must be covered.

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Jeremy Rose: For clarity what I mean by that is there’s nothing that you have to do as far as ELDT is concerned, to get your class be compared to getting your class A.

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Jeremy Rose: Other than that, the topics, you must train on are going to be slightly different there’s no class or endorsement that has a hidden amount of specific time or otherwise different requirements there’s just different topics.

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Jeremy Rose: Due to the nature of school bus operators requiring a class B, S and P endorsement school bus driver trainings will have to deal with.

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Jeremy Rose: Quite a few more topic requirements and potential overlaps than your average driver training will, for example.

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Jeremy Rose: Training on railroad crossings is required for Class B, S and P endorsement driver trainees, meaning that it’s quite likely a school bus driver trainee will train on these topics’ multiple times.

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Jeremy Rose: Next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: How much training is required, remember, there is no required time amount for ELDT you just must cover all of the topics set forth by the FMCSA for each class or endorsement.

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Jeremy Rose: The FMCSA has established 29 training topics for Class B, 18 training topics for passenger endorsement, and 11 training topics for S endorsement, meaning a school bus driver training, starting from scratch, will have to cover 58 topics.

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Jeremy Rose: To be trained on the theory portion for their entry level driver training, as I said earlier, Infinit-I Workforce solutions is only a theory training provider, so I won’t cover the behind the wheel topics in depth.

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Jeremy Rose: But just as heads up there are 18 topics for Class B, 6 per class for passenger endorsement and 6 for the school bus endorsement.

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Jeremy Rose: Some of you might have seen the number 63 thrown around as the required number of training topics for school bus driver trainees, in the past, this is because the topics in class B.

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Jeremy Rose: are broken out into five different sections, some people have mistakenly added the section titles, to the list of required topics that is unnecessary.

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Jeremy Rose: Training on the 29 topics of class B covers all the parameters of the 5 sections That being said, it’s not going to hurt anything if the training that you utilize has 63 topics versus 58 topics or anything like that.

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Jeremy Rose: Next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: So what are the topics I won’t read through all of these, but we will leave them on screen for a brief moment, once again, all of this information is on the electronic code of federal regulations website at www.eCFT.gov

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Jeremy Rose: the sections for Class B are basic operation, safe operating procedures, advanced operating practices, legal systems and reporting malfunctions, and non-driving activities.

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Jeremy Rose: Please note that if you are interested in researching this information yourself the FMCSA has listed each of these topics with a prompt explaining the minimum information that must be covered by each of these topics.

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Jeremy Rose: that’s too much information to cover in this presentation on its own, but if you have questions about a specific topic, please let me know during the.

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Jeremy Rose: Next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: Here are the topics for passenger endorsement, once again I won’t read through all of them, but we will have the leave them on the screen briefly passenger endorsement covers a number of topics that coincide or overlap directly with the school bus endorsement topics.

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Jeremy Rose: Next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: And here are the school bus endorsement topics, the vast majority of this information is pretty standard stuff.

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Jeremy Rose: Again, it’s meant to be the FMCSAs goal here is not to reinvent the wheel it’s just a standardized the training that it takes to get behind one so most of this information you’re probably already training on or have been training on for quite some time.

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Jeremy Rose: Next slide please.

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Craig Hart: I would like to point out, for those that are on the call today all the content items that we’ve been highlighting on these last three slides.

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Craig Hart: These theory topics are already included in the library of coursework that is available for everyone that already uses the Infinit-I Workforce Platform.

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Craig Hart: So that is not something that you would need to add additionally it’s already there for those of you who are not familiar with our platform, obviously we can get you in touch with Leslie and she can talk with you more about that.

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Craig Hart: But this is not something that is separate from the content that you’re already using it is it’s already there we just have some different groupings, we need to activate for you.

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Mark Rhea: And these pieces of these pieces of content will be five to 10 minutes in length and conclude with a handful of questions like the other content.

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Jeremy Rose: Generally speaking, yes, so we very much believe in the concept that academic learning is better fostered by shorter more concise pieces of video.

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Jeremy Rose: So all of our training for entry level driver training is going to try to follow that methodology now, some people are going to look at some of these topics and know right off the top of their heads that there’s no way you can fully cover a topic like.

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Jeremy Rose: Student management in just five minutes, so those instances some of those videos will be broken out into multiple sections.

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Jeremy Rose: Or you might have a slightly longer video around the 10-to-12-minute mark that scenario, just to make sure that we cover all the valuable information inherent in that topic.

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Craig Hart: And for those unfamiliar with the formatting, it’s typically an animated video with audio and then post video is a quiz typically multiple choice.

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Craig Hart: anywhere between 3 to 10 questions, depending on the amount of material that’s covered in there.

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Craig Hart: We do keep the quizzes separate from the training material.

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Craig Hart: So that we can speak for the integrity of the training that is being done, we don’t allow people do quote unquote do it open book where they can have the material right beside the questions they need to answer.

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Craig Hart: and individuals can take the sessions multiple times if they need to which sometimes does happen, and we do allow that functionality as well, and you can that we have tracking on the back end so you can see, all this occurring.

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Mark Rhea: And there’s a certificate of completion of that registered under that individuals’ names and stored within the system is that correct.

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Mark Rhea: And that is correct and, in this case.

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Mark Rhea: Shared or integrated with the state licensing agency.

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Jeremy Rose: that’s correct we got.

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Craig Hart: Everything in our platform, so if it’s something that is done online and done in this system good bad or indifferent, it is all logged so it can all be reviewed.

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Mark Rhea: And everything is.

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Mark Rhea: Connected with all the different States.

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Correct.

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Jeremy Rose: Alright, so after all of that information, how do you actually get training the short answer here is to either find a training provider.

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Jeremy Rose: Or to become one, but this is where things can get a little more complicated to monitor and regulate these new requirements, the FMCSA has created the training provider registry.

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Jeremy Rose: training providers, for entry level driver training must be listed on the training provider registry, yes, that includes you if you are training your own driver trainees.

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Jeremy Rose: Becoming an approved training provider requires submitting an electronic application to the training provider registry self-certifying that you meet all.

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Jeremy Rose: The requirements, affirming under penalty of perjury that you will only teach the prescribed ELDT curriculum.

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Jeremy Rose: And you must maintain documentation proving ELDT compliance in the event of an audit.

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Jeremy Rose: Once a training provider has been accepted, to the ppr they will be assigned a unique training provider ID number which will appear on a driver trainees record in the commercial driver’s license information system excellent.

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Craig Hart: We will be providing some additional information from FMCSA on the follow up email to this webinar which will also include a replay and a copy of the presentation deck because I know some of you are probably writing notes furiously right now as we’re moving through this.

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Craig Hart: That will include the steps on how to the FMCSA steps on how to get set up as a training provider.

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Jeremy Rose: So, let’s say you want to become a registered trainer on the ppr in order to do that, you must meet one of the two following qualifications.

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Jeremy Rose: You must either hold a CDL of the same or higher class and with all endorsements necessary to operate the cm before which training must be provided.

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Jeremy Rose: And you must have at least two years of experience and driving a CMV requiring a CDL of the same or higher class and or the same endorsement.

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Jeremy Rose: And he was meet all applicable state or qualifications requirements for CMV instructors or number two.

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Jeremy Rose: missiles to see a deal of the same or higher class and with all endorsements necessary to operate the CMV for which training is to be provided.

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Jeremy Rose: and have at least two years of experience as a behind the wheel CMV instructor and once again meet all applicable state qualification requirements for seeing the instructors next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: There are of course some exceptions to these rules number one and instructor is not required to hold a CDL all of the same or higher class and with all endorsements necessary to operate CMV, for which training is to private provided.

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Jeremy Rose: If the instructor previously held a CDL of the same or higher class and complies with the other requirements set forth in the first or second qualifications and then number two.

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Jeremy Rose: training providers, offering online content exclusively are not required to meet state qualification requirements for theory instructors go, it is important to note, they still must meet the other requirements.

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Jeremy Rose: Another important notes, and this is very important if you’re going to be doing your own training.

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Jeremy Rose: If an instructor CDL has been canceled suspended or revoked due to any of the disqualifying offenses identified in 383.51 of the CFR.

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Jeremy Rose: The instructor is prohibited from engaging in theory instruction for two years following the date of his or her CDL being reinstated so that’s not two years from when you lose your CDL that’s two years from when your CDL reinstated just for clarity that next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: So, let’s say you’re a driver trainee and you go through all of the required motions of ELDT what happens after you complete your training.

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Jeremy Rose: Once a driver training completes the required training for whatever they are attempting to do, they will receive a certificate that contains the following information, the date of issuance,

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Jeremy Rose: the name of the training provider, the mailing address of the training provider, the name of the driver, a certification statement, and then a printed name of the person, a testing that the driver has received the required training.

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Jeremy Rose: And the signature of that same person. This certificate, along with the records of completion that are sent to the training provider registry.

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Jeremy Rose: are what allows a driver training to go and take their CDL or their endorsement test, without this proof a driver trainee will not be able to take the test for their CDL or endorsement.

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Jeremy Rose: And that’s really it for the basics of govt as far as regulations go this one is honestly relatively benign the vast majority of this training should be or is already being done.

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Jeremy Rose: And at this point I’ll go ahead and hand it back over to Craig before we get into the Q&A section.

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Craig Hart: I will be getting to those momentarily here because it’s worth speaking goes out to the crowd I did just want to remind everyone about the DEMO.

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Craig Hart: and getting that squared away and to make that easy we have some poll questions for you all that if you’d like to.

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Craig Hart: Get set up with a DEMO have Leslie reach out to you get something on your calendar, so that you can walk through this program.

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Craig Hart: and get a better idea of how to implement it, where works for your organization that’s absolutely something she would love to do, she loves to help folks.

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Craig Hart: While everyone is answering those, let us get some of these questions here, so I know, one of the questions that came up.

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Craig Hart: Will this cost us more if we are already a member user of Vertical Alliance Group, the answer to that is no.

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Craig Hart: Existing clients of ours and the student transportation world will get the email ELDT content, at no additional cost to them.

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Craig Hart: It will be bracketed out in the catalog to make it easy for you to find and assign if that’s what you’re choosing to do with the system, so there is no additional cost for any of you on the line today who are already existing clients of ours, with student transportation.

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Jeremy Rose: Also, just to jump in on that Craig for clarity, because we had this question asked previously and then also asked again for clarity so.

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Jeremy Rose: If you are a current Member of Infinit-I you, you will not be charged more for this product if you become a member of Infinit-I in the future, a year down the road two years down the road our current intent is.

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Jeremy Rose: ELDT is a part of being a member of Infinit-I period so whether you’re a member now or you’re a member later our intent is to have this content available for you.

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Craig Hart: Now, someone was asking about when the ELDT content will be released and Colin, I appreciate you putting this in chat for us.

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Craig Hart: The S endorsement content should be live early November the P endorsement will be live on right before Christmas on 12-24-2022.

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Craig Hart: And then the class A and B will be live by 12-31-2022 so all the content will be live in the system by January 1, 2022.

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Craig Hart: Again, the requirement doesn’t kick in until February so activity that’s done prior to that will not matter, but we will have it done in advance of when you all will need that so total time of content that is a great question.

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Craig Hart: Obviously you saw the number of modules that an individual potentially need to complete and our average timeframe of 5 to 10 minutes on those sessions.

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Craig Hart: And we were talking about this prior to the call today because it’s hard to pin down there are different levels of.

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Craig Hart: learner achievement, some people will be able to get through this content in a relatively short period of time, I know, Jeremy had mentioned probably about 10 hours.

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Craig Hart: But there may be other individuals that need to take the sessions, more than one time to complete them successfully, so it will vary by user, so we are a little bit hesitant to peg it to a specific time frame.

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Craig Hart: But we are not talking about days or weeks of time that an individual would need to spend to go through this content.

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Craig Hart: Excellent all right here let’s see some of the other questions keep these coming in folks these are great, and we will make sure that everyone gets their answers today once I figure out what screen my mouse is on here there we are on.

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Jeremy Rose: Let me just to go back a little bit Craig sorry on me when are things going to be released if.

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Jeremy Rose: People are interested in just kind of getting the basic foundation going we already have entry level driver training content.

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Jeremy Rose: At on our system, it’s been live for years, so our intent is to update that content obviously over the course of the next month or two months as we go into 2022.

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Jeremy Rose: But if you just want to lay the groundwork and go ahead and get things started that content already exists it’s just going to get updated as we move into the New Year.

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Mark Rhea: In JEREMY I assume, as the FMCSA roles this out in modifies adds to that you and your team will provide updates accordingly.

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Jeremy Rose: Absolutely yeah, it’s a it’ll be a part of our daily lives, for the rest of eternity to keep track of this and make sure that any adjustments that the FMCSA makes will be automatically updated and included in the ELDT package.

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Craig Hart: For those folks that are not familiar with our program and our organization JEREMY is part of it or leads a team of individuals that All they do is create content for both.

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Craig Hart: Our student transportation folks as well as the folks that are on the trucking side and we’re also dabbling in some additional areas as well, like HR.

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Craig Hart: We are contractually obligated every month to roll out new content, I believe we are the only person in our space that does that but it’s in writing that we will have new things for you every month.

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Craig Hart: And this will be part of that and it’s Jeremy’s goal is to stay on top of these requirements, so that we are providing the most accurate information per regulations that are out there, so it’s ongoing.

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Craig Hart: project so that one of these are not going to live forever in one form they will update consistently over time, so you don’t have to worry about whether or not it’s covering the correct information that’s a piece that we own and stay on top of.

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Craig Hart: let’s see here a couple of the questions is the certificate issued by you guys that’s a good question actually JEREMY what is the certificate of issuance look like for the ELDT I know we don’t have a sample of what that is, but that will be generated automatically by our system.

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Jeremy Rose: Absolutely yeah, we don’t have a sample of that just yet, but I think it was in one of the final slides that I covered everything that goes on to that certificate.

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Jeremy Rose: Absolutely, when a driver trainee completes the let’s say class the portion for the theory training and they pass it successfully, they will receive a certificate of completion.

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Jeremy Rose: And then they can download that print that out save that whatever they want to do for their own records, obviously, and then.

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Jeremy Rose: Our system will automatically send that information to the training provider registry and that information is disseminated out to the various state organizations that require it.

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Craig Hart: Excellent now when those updates happen to those updates and you may not know this, this might be more of an IT question do those updates happened the moment that someone completes it or is there, potentially some kind of like it takes an hour or two to catch up.

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Jeremy Rose: There are multiple options for that information our intent is to have it as automatic and automated as possible, but this kind of depends on how the training provider registry is functioning.

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Jeremy Rose: The FMCSA can be a bit hit or miss with some of these pieces of software, so we’ll have to see how that operates currently there is functionality, for it to be completely 100% automated you click the button it’s there it’s done.

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Jeremy Rose: And then there are the options for it to be updated live once a day that type of situation, but as a note the FMCSA does require that training providers have all this information updated and verified and archived every 48 hours at the minimum okay.

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Craig Hart: Now, is there a minimum passing score.

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Jeremy Rose: 80% is the minimum passing score set by the FMCSA our plan right, and this is going to be dependent change dependent on what type of training that you utilize the FMCSA is not specific on this.

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Jeremy Rose: They just give the guideline that the final score must be a minimum of 80% for the entire training.

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Jeremy Rose: Our plan is to have a minimum 80% score for every piece of content that is in the ELDT.

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Craig Hart: All right here, keep them coming folks these are some great questions here, these are not questions we hit JEREMY with yesterday and preparation Mark do you have anything for JEREMY right.

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Mark Rhea: Yes, yes, Jeremy if I’m entering the school bus driving pool and I complete my ELDT I complete my CDL, training and I’m issue to see deal in the state that I reside in is there an ongoing FMCSA requirement a renewal or anything like that or is it one and done.

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Jeremy Rose: This is one and done entirely once you go through entry level driver training, you will not have to go through entry level driver training again unless you are upgrading your CDL

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Jeremy Rose: from B to A basically or you’re obtaining a new endorsement so for school bus driver trainees.

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Jeremy Rose: Which is what are our main focuses here right now, once you go through that process, you get your class B, you get your S, you get your P you’re done, you will never have to deal with ELDT again.

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Mark Rhea: However, it could be a good ongoing practice to provide ongoing training for your drivers.

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Jeremy Rose: Individuals continue to learn and continue to take a safety training or best practice training that is something that our system offers, and even if you’re not going to use ours, I’m not a salesman so I get to say this.

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Jeremy Rose: Even if you’re not using our system right.

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Jeremy Rose: This is absolutely something that you should be doing ongoing learning is the best way to make sure that people.

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Jeremy Rose: remain safe to make sure that what you’re supposed to be doing is kept top of mine and as you’re doing it right, what we all, we all go through you know life.

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Jeremy Rose: And we hit that kind of like long stretches where things get very slangy continuing to take training continuing to learn means that you keep those issues that are really important top of mind.

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Craig Hart: Mark and I are huge fans of that we talked about complacency zones and drivers.

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Craig Hart: A couple of questions we have coming in, is there a final exam.

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Jeremy Rose: There is no final exam the way that our system operates, we have it set up to where you’ll have a total assignment so say, for your class B.

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Jeremy Rose: CDL, you would have those 29 topics each of those 29 topics obvious honestly, it’ll probably be more than 29 topics because we’ll have more than one video covering each topic.

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Jeremy Rose: So each of those topics will have their own test once you get through all of the tests, all of the videos the assignment completes and you’re done.

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Jeremy Rose: We don’t think it’s a good practice, especially over the course of something like.

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Jeremy Rose: If you think about the course of going through 29 different topics to then quiz someone about a topic from you know section one or two that that type of scenario.

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Jeremy Rose: Again, that information we’re not trying to trick anyone, or trip and he went up, we want to make sure that when we’re delivering information, people are focused on that information they’re not focused on information from two hours before that that type situation.

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Craig Hart: Will there be any discrepancies, say, for example, if you hire a driver that is moving from one state to another is this a state line state specific requirement.

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Jeremy Rose: know as long as if they’re CDL is valid right if it is then they qualify as far as entry level driver training goes right.

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Jeremy Rose: Now there are processes, where you must go through certain states to update different things, etc, etc, but that that doesn’t matter the records of completion of them having gone through entry level driver training will be disseminated throughout the nation.

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Jeremy Rose: They are then.

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Jeremy Rose: And that’s kind of the design right and that’s the that’s the whole point is.

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Jeremy Rose: Prior to this establishment, the training requirements are all over the place from State to State etc, etc, what the FMCSA is trying to do here is make a national minimum so that we don’t have to go through all of us anymore.

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Craig Hart: Excellent all right couple others here, how do you get registered will send out the instructions on part of the follow up email.

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Craig Hart: The FMCSA sound like a seven-page document that walks you through the steps so did you can get assigned your own TPR number cost of the program that’s actually a great question for Leslie mark and I and JEREMY, we are not in sales, and so I don’t know.

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Craig Hart: But Leslie does handle those kinds of conversations and we can get her contact information on the screen here again for everyone, so that you absolutely can reach out to her directly and she can get those squared away with you.

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Craig Hart: The tests are online with our program that is correct, everything we do is online, so that we can log and track it all, and it will give them the score as soon as they complete it, whether they have passed or failed if they have failed and do have the ability to retake.

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Craig Hart: JEREMY I guess the question I have for you is do they can see the questions they got wrong if they take a quiz.

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Jeremy Rose: I’m not sure we’re still in the final stages of deciding exactly how we want that content to look.

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Jeremy Rose: We have we have gone we’ve gone one way or the other, with content in the past, trying to determine whether it’s a better learning scenario, to be able to identify what you’ve done wrong or not we’re still making that final decision in the next two months.

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Craig Hart: Okay, so just flush that out, for those of you on the call in a lot of our safety training, right now, a administrator for particular.

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Craig Hart: School district or school bus company can allow a student a user, as it were, to see what they got wrong or conversely.

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Craig Hart: not see what they got wrong, so they must go back through the video pay closer attention so that they’re making sure that they’re learning and understand the information before they take the next quiz so.

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Craig Hart: It sounds like that still something we’re waiting to be determined there’s arguments made.

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Jeremy Rose: The only complicated scenario is what happens when there’s not an administrator right when we’re doing individual basis, and in those problems probable instances that’s where we’re kind of on the not sure if we’re going to go one way or the other gotcha.

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Mark Rhea: gotcha and the content can be delivered either all night through the platform, either on a cell phone or a laptop.

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Craig Hart: Correct, it’s designed to be used on mobile devices, whether that’s a tablet laptop smartphone.

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Craig Hart: We do have APP versions available as well that are fully functional, and they do have access to all of the content through those Apps as well.

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Craig Hart: And everything that they do on those Apps is logged just as normal activity, so if you do it on a computer if you do it on your smartphone all the reporting goes to the same place.

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Mark Rhea: JEREMY it’s safe to say you’ve got thousands of hours invested in this is that a fair statement.

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Jeremy Rose: and large amount of time.

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Mark Rhea: As just an industry this your program is clearly going to be a trailblazer in in the ELDT program and be able to keep up with it, so I can’t imagine a program that doesn’t have Infinit-I as a partner, going forward, you would have to do this yourself and that’s not feasible.

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Craig Hart: A couple of questions coming in here will the program track that time per individual yes, it will you will be able to see by user how much time they spend on individual modules of training.

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Craig Hart: So thank you Leslie for jumping in on that and then.

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Craig Hart: What I would recommend and Leslie you can jump in on here too, because I know you have a ton of experience on setting up assignments probably want to set up a template just for the entry level driver training that has.

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Craig Hart: presets for that content so rather than you are doing it over and over again, one, at a time, adding in the content to one you can set up a template which will preset a lot of that, and then you can just assign it out as needed.

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Jeremy Rose: And in fact for clarity, I think that’s what we’re going to require because of these certain the certification requirements that go into this and the

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Jeremy Rose: percentage grades, that the FMCSA requires probably what our plan is to do is to if a if a client is utilizing entry level driver training with us.

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Jeremy Rose: we’ll just have a base template that you use for entry level driver training.

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Jeremy Rose: That way, there there’s no there’s no confusion there’s no mistakes of oh you didn’t add all the right topics, or you combine some of the topics that you shouldn’t or anything like that.

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Jeremy Rose: So, we’ll just have templates where you go, I want to add class B boom done, I want S endorsement boom done period excellent.

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Craig Hart: Alright, we did have a question that came through what is the name of the APP the APP is actually the under the program name for the platform it’s Infinit-I; I-N-F-I-N-I-T-I.

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Craig Hart: Workforce Solutions and what happens is that every group that we work with has their own company code that is associated with them, and that must be entered the first time.

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Craig Hart: A user goes into access their training, but, as with many Apps they only have to do that, the onetime unless they change their device, or they remove the APP from their phone or their tablet.

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Jeremy Rose: that’s another question we had this from you yesterday Mark will we need to keep a copy of their certificate in our employee files.

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Jeremy Rose: No, so what this is going through entry level driver training the driver training obviously will have their own records they’ll be able to keep their own certificate.

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Jeremy Rose: But the federal government through the training provider registry will be archiving all that information and that information will go out to all of these state CDL licensing agencies.

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Jeremy Rose: Meaning that you can’t even get your CDL or your S or P endorsements or anything like that you can’t even get them.

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Jeremy Rose: Unless you have gone through the ELDT training, meaning that by the time the driver actually gets to you right, and you have a employee file or anything like that.

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Jeremy Rose: Then the Federal Government at the FMCSA already goes Oh, they have a CDL you don’t have to worry about having their certificate as for right now bear in mind that might change.

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Jeremy Rose: So we’ll keep that will keep that information top of mine, but for the moment no, you do not need to have their certificate in their employee file.

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Jeremy Rose: Now, if you wanted to put their certificate in the employee vile there’s nothing to say that you couldn’t or shouldn’t do that so it’s just not a requirement currently.

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Craig Hart: So now someone had a question about the registration.

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Craig Hart: On the training provider registration site is the second link on this page this www.apr.fmcsa.dot.gov again we’ll send you that follow up document with the replay that has this information and how to navigate that site when we’re done today.

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Craig Hart: Excellent now if somebody here’s one for you, this is a little bit different if somebody needs to get their SNP done right now we’re going to have that content of.

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Craig Hart: by Christmas time they should probably get it done before February 7 right.

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Jeremy Rose: I mean absolutely right, if you have the ability, if you are, if this is something that you’re considering doing, and you have the ability to do it right now the requirements now I will, I will say this, I think you should do all of the training that is already going to be required.

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Jeremy Rose: But right now, that training is not required.

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Jeremy Rose: So, if you want to go get your S&P get your class B, et cetera now’s the time to do it excellent.

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Craig Hart: Excellent all right well JEREMY.

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Craig Hart: Had a ton of stuff shared today, I appreciate that so much.

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Craig Hart: Thank you for being here as well, I saw you burning up chat I appreciate that so and I’m sure you will be hearing from some more of the individuals that was on the call with us today.

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Craig Hart: And Mr. Mark is always a pleasure to join you and thank you to everyone that joined us out in TV land.

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Craig Hart: Again, we will be sending a follow up that will have the PowerPoint presentation that we went through today will have the webinar replay will have the link to the FMCSA.

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Craig Hart: TPR resource page PDF so that if you want to get squared away as your own training provider, that you can certainly do so in that wall so have.

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Craig Hart: Question answering on you know what does the skills test entail and so forth, because that’s The one thing that we don’t cover as a theory provider is the skills test and the skills training the actual behind the wheel.

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Craig Hart: So, but otherwise everyone Thank you so much for your time today, we appreciate you and be safe out there, everyone, thank you.

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Mark Rhea: Thank you, Jeremy.

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Jeremy Rose: I’m good one.