Webinar Replay #29: ELD Training for Trucking

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Craig Hart: Good morning, everybody, welcome to the latest edition of the Fast Forward Expert Roundtable webinar series, today we are talking about Entry Level Driver training requirements.

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Craig Hart: Were the trucking industry so as we are joining the event here today, we got folks logging on right now we’re going to go ahead and start with some introductions.

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Craig Hart: I know some of you have participated in our webinar series before, but some of you may be joining us, for the very first time and don’t know a whole lot about us.

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Craig Hart: My name is Craig heart I’m with Vertical Alliance Group, my background is in distance learning it’s what my life has been since 2004.

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Craig Hart: Both within the transportation industry, as well as in the financial services and insurance worlds and my cohost with the most is Mr. Mark Rhea.

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Craig Hart: Mark is, like many of you, he is a former trucking executive, with over 35 years’ experience in the field, he worked with Frozen Food Express out of Dallas Texas that’s a reefer hauler that I know some of you may be familiar with.

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Craig Hart: And even though he has retired from that world he is now still very active in the industry, both with.

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Craig Hart: advising other trucking companies and government groups and education organizations that are.

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Craig Hart: Tackling current and future issues that are going to impact our industry, such as the electrification of trucking and school buses and different ways to address the driver shortage expanding CDL training options and so forth Mark it’s lovely to see you again today, sir.

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Mark Rhea: Thank you for having me and really looking forward to today’s discussion where we are.

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Mark Rhea: Anticipating this ELDT to go forward in February it’s I’ve been involved when the committee was established back, I want to say five or six years ago I think it’s good for our industry and we’re.

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Mark Rhea: very fortunate to have JEREMY rose joining us today, who has thousands of hours invested in developing the content that will keep you compliant.

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Mark Rhea: And even above compliance with FMCSA so if you’re not familiar put on your seat belt, we got a lot to cover today and really looking forward to Jeremy’s presentation.

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Craig Hart: Excellent now that brings us great point and JEREMY rose is our guest speaker today JEREMY is one of our internal staffers here at Vertical Alliance Group his official title is video production manager, but he really oversees all the content.

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Craig Hart: That we create and distribute monthly, some of you, if you have gone through our training may even recognize his voice is he has been the voice over artist on several of the videos as well.

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Craig Hart: he’s been doing this for 14 years folks, so he knows content, he knows he’s been dealing with the ELDT program since it was first announced and delayed multiple times.

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Craig Hart: So, I’m sure he’s very glad that this is finally coming to fruition and then we also have Woody O’Dell on the call with us today Woody is another staffer here a Vertical Alliance Group, some of you may be familiar with him.

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Craig Hart: When he was on our client success team and now, he’s over in more of our sales development area.

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Craig Hart: And the reason that we have woody on the call with us today is, we are going to cover a lot of information and.

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Craig Hart: We will have a replay of this available to everyone who has attended today, but you may also want to see.

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Craig Hart: It in action you may want to be able to get your hands on it, and what he can do a DEMO for you.

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Craig Hart: takes about 20-30 minutes and can walk you through how it’s set up in the system, how you assign out training create templates and things like that.

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Craig Hart: And so, I wanted to include his phone number and his email address on here because that’s something that.

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Craig Hart: We can get scheduled today, and he would love to speak with you this is something that he does all the time.

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Craig Hart: And we’re very glad to have him on the call with us today as well, so Jeremy and Woody Thank you guys for being with us and.

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Craig Hart: The real reason that we are doing this is entry-level driver training in the requirement kicks off in February of 2022.

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Craig Hart: And it really falls smack DAB in the middle of the process for a new driver to get their license so in the past, it was a much more streamlined process.

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Craig Hart: Application permanent go to school and away you go and now you have this entry level driver training, which makes it possible for.

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Craig Hart: Some of you on the line, right now, who are contemplating becoming your own CDL training providers, the ability to do that now, without having to go through a third party.

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Craig Hart: So, we want to talk about what those requirements entail, we want to talk about how we are assisting with those requirements on our end as a theory content provider and also the steps that you can take.

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Craig Hart: to become a registered training provider on your own so excellent all right, Jeremy one more thing, before we start this is an interactive session with you all and out in TV land.

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Craig Hart: easiest way to do that is through the chat function of the chat is on your action bar there at the top of the screen go ahead and open that up.

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Craig Hart: And then, at the bottom, there is a button, right now, it probably does not say everyone, but if you click on it there’s a little drop down that says everyone.

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Craig Hart: And that way you can ask us questions as we’re going through the information that we’re covering today.

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Craig Hart: I know a lot of the questions will be addressed by the content that JEREMY has put together, but there may be other questions as well, that you have.

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Craig Hart: Maybe specific to our platform and how we can facilitate this kind of training going forward.

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Craig Hart: But we want to hear from you so go ahead and fire up your chat button, let us know who you are where you’re calling in from are dialing in from see a couple folks already good morning and ash it’s great to see you again.

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Craig Hart: So, had hadn’t seen you in a while so welcome back, but while you guys are doing that I’m going to go ahead now and turn the floor over to JEREMY so he can educate us on what we need to know.

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Jeremy Rose: All right, thanks, very much Craig Hello everyone, my name is JEREMY Rose I’m the video production manager for Infinit-I Workforce Solutions.

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Jeremy Rose: And today I’m here to talk to you about entry level driver training, the new training regulations from the FMCSA.

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Jeremy Rose: Please note that this presentation is designed for those that have little to no prior knowledge about entry level driver training what it is, or why it’s important.

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Jeremy Rose: If you’re already familiar with the new regulations, then, most of this information will not be new to you but stick around we’re going to get into some of the nitty gritty and there will be a Q&A a section for you to ask questions there.

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Jeremy Rose: there’s a lot of specific, material to cover with these new regulations more than we have time to go over here if your question is not answered during this presentation.

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Jeremy Rose: There will be a Q&A section afterwards, please don’t hesitate to submit questions throughout the presentation.

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Jeremy Rose: If it’s relevant to the current topic we might stop and answer that question at that point, otherwise we’ll try to answer them all, once we actually get to the Q&A section.

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Jeremy Rose: Or, if you are the type that likes to get your hands dirty or if you just like to brush up on things yourself afterwards, all of this information is online in the electronic code of federal regulations at www.ECFR.gov.

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Jeremy Rose: specifically, under Title 49 part three at special training requirements.

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Jeremy Rose: You can also find more information about the training provider registry, which we will discuss at length at www.tpr.fmcsa.dot.gov.

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Jeremy Rose: This presentation will focus on general ELDT information, as well as the specific information for Class A, B and H endorsement so let’s jump into things next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: What is entry level driver training beginning February 7, 2022, entry level drivers will be subject to the requirements in the entry level driver training or ELDT regulations.

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Jeremy Rose: The whole purpose of this is to set a minimum standard of training requirements for entry level CDL holders these regulations are established by the FMCSA so next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: Where does this apply to these new regulations apply to drivers obtaining a class A or class B CDL for the first time upgrading and existing class B CDL to a class a CDL or obtaining a school bus as passenger P or hazardous materials H endorsement for the first-time next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: What about current CDL holders, the ELDT regulations are not retroactive meaning the entry level driver training requirements do not apply to individuals holding a valid CDL or an S, P or H endorsement.

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Jeremy Rose: issued prior to February 7, 2022, if an applicant to obtain a commercials learner’s permit prior to February 7, 2022, obtains a CDL before the CLP or a renewed CLP expires, then the applicant is not subject to the ELDT requirements, this is very important, this is a question we get a lot.

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Jeremy Rose: If you had a CDL prior to February 7, ELDT does not apply to you it’s only applies after February 7, 2022, next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: So, what’s the point the ELDT regulations establish a federal standard for training CDL applicants.

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Jeremy Rose: applicants must successfully complete this training before they will be permitted to take the CDL skills test or in the case of the H endorsement of the knowledge test.

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Jeremy Rose: This means that all new entry level drivers should have roughly the same amount of training, when they take their CDL or endorsement tests.

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Jeremy Rose: The desire here is to prevent untrained individuals from obtaining a CDL or endorsement and to make sure that all entry drop entry level drivers meet the necessary basic threshold to safely operate a CMV.

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Jeremy Rose: Next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: Now that we know who is affected by the El dt regulations let’s talk a little bit about what the training looks like.

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Jeremy Rose: There is no federally mandated amount of training time that a driver training must complete for entry level driver training the CSA only requires that training cover all topics set forth by the FMCSA.

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Jeremy Rose: they’re required topics are broken into two sections theory and behind the wheel behind the wheel is broken into two further sections range and public road.

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Jeremy Rose: As a note Infinit-I Workforce Solutions as a platform only handles online training so I’ll only be covering the theory portion of the training here, but if you have questions about the behind the wheel training, please do ask me next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: Are there different requirements, the ELDT regulations are the same for Class A and B, as well as S, P and H endorsements there are no special regulations that must be followed for the different classes or endorsements.

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Jeremy Rose: outside of the different topics that must be covered for clarity what I mean by that is there’s nothing that you must do.

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Jeremy Rose: As far as ELDT regulations go to get your class B versus getting your class A other than the topics that you must train on being slightly different no class or endorsement has a hidden specific amount of time or otherwise differing requirement, there are just different topics.

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Mark Rhea: Depending on the class.

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Mark Rhea: got me that those would be supplemental if you wanted a school bus passenger or hazmat endorsement, those were just be supplemental.

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Mark Rhea: content to the standard H ELDT.

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Jeremy Rose: Yeah, it definitely depends on where you’re at in your career right if you are a driver if you’re a driver that already has a CDL right and after February 7, 2022.

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Jeremy Rose: you decide, you want to get your H endorsement, then you will go through the H endorsements specific entry level driver training requirements.

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Jeremy Rose: But then again, of course, if you if you’re not a driver at all and you’re just getting your CDL, for the first time you go through the whole program depending on what you’re trying to accomplish.

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Jeremy Rose: So, depending on the class of CDL or endorsement a driver training is trying to obtain and the different processes that they go through it is feasible, that a driver training might be trained on the same topic multiple times, for example.

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Jeremy Rose: Training on railroad crossings is required for Class A and B, as well as H endorsements so.

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Jeremy Rose: A driver might theoretically need to be trained on that topic three different times in a relatively rapid succession depending on when they attempt to obtain or upgrade their CDL or endorsement.

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Jeremy Rose: Like I was just saying with Marks question right the concept that if you already have a say class A CDL.

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Jeremy Rose: And you decide, you want to go for your H endorsement then you’re just going to go through that training, but if you were.

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Jeremy Rose: If you don’t have a CDL and you’re you go for your class A, for example, and immediately following that you also try to get your H endorsement you’re going to have a couple of overlapping topics that will probably train on in rapid succession.

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Jeremy Rose: So next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: Remember, there is no required time amount for entry level driver training you just must cover all the topics set forth by the FMCSA for each class or endorsement.

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Jeremy Rose: The FMCSA has established 30 training topics for Class 29 training topics for Class B and 13 training topics for the hazardous materials endorsement.

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Jeremy Rose: As I said earlier, Infinit-I Workforce Solutions is only a theory training provider, so I won’t cover the behind the wheel topics in depth.

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Jeremy Rose: But just as a heads up there are 19 topics for Class eight and 18 topics for Class B, there is no behind the wheel portion for H endorsement as a note, there is no time requirement for any of the classes or endorsements.

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Jeremy Rose: You just have to receive a minimum score of 80% on the theory is assessment portion of the theory and what I mean by that is.

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Jeremy Rose: Throughout all of the different topics that are covered, for whatever class or endorsement you’re trying to achieve, you have to have an 80% minimum score on all of those topics or an overall test, depending on what your training provider.

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Jeremy Rose: provides.

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Mark Rhea: So that would.

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Mark Rhea: Be 80% for each topic not 80% cumulative.

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Jeremy Rose: Yeah, it depends on what the training provider does the way we’re going to be doing it, it will be a an 80% for each topic and cumulatively that will require an 80% overall.

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Jeremy Rose: But if your training provider does batch training in a very specific manner or something like that you could in theory have 80% for each of the different sections or 80% as an overall there’s no there’s no standard set by the FMCSA on which is required.

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Craig Hart: thinking that.

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Jeremy Rose: 80% across the board gotcha.

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Craig Hart: Something else that’s good to address here.

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Craig Hart: I know this is going to come up as a question so I’ll go ahead and head this off at the pass because we’ve talked about this offline.

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Craig Hart: Some folks have asked us what a time expectation should be for someone to complete the topics that they’re going through and obviously that’s dependent upon.

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Craig Hart: The content that they are using I know with our specific content we typically shoot for the five-to-10-minute range and.

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Craig Hart: So, at a bare minimum, you can kind of do some rough math 30 topics at worst case scenario 10 minutes.

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Craig Hart: But you also must consider, potentially, there will be people that have to go through a topic, more than one time to achieve a passing score.

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Craig Hart: So, we’re hesitant to give a recommendation on the amount of time that an individual would need to spend because everybody’s going to be a little bit different depending on how quickly they learn, but for your own purposes for scheduling and things like that you are not looking at.

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Craig Hart: Multiple days or weeks of training time that people are required to go through on the theory side of the material they can get through that material as quickly as they can.

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Craig Hart: And knock that out at a minimum time frame, you know 30 topics 10 minutes three 300 minutes to five hours so but that’s not something that we can guarantee just because of the folks that that may be going through the system might move at a slower rate.

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Jeremy Rose: yeah and there’s the there’s definitely a little bit of a range on that particular scenario, also for clarity right.

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Jeremy Rose: There are 30 topics a class A, for example, right there are 30 topics within class A.

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Jeremy Rose: But that doesn’t necessarily mean that your training is only going to be 30 videos whether you’re training with us or your training on your own time or or what have you right.

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Jeremy Rose: Those are just the 30 topics that the FMCSA requires so, for example, I know, some people are going to be able to look at these topics.

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Jeremy Rose: A pre post trip right that’s very hard to cover in just a five-minute section right, so what we tend to do is we try to break that down into bite size chunks.

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Jeremy Rose: So, you might have three or four or five, five-to-10-minute videos that cover that particular topic.

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Jeremy Rose: And that’s likely what you’re going to see through a lot of different training you’re going to see.

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Jeremy Rose: training providers, either do larger videos 20-to-30-minute videos for some of these topics and so you’ll only have 30 topics, but you’ll have larger videos, or you’ll have more videos within those topics covering the different range.

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Jeremy Rose: I like to give the ballpark figure of around 10 hours, but that, again, is going to depend on what you’re going for right.

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Jeremy Rose: And this is dependent on the industry that you’re in if you’re just getting your class A.

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Jeremy Rose: Probably anywhere from five to 10 hours for entry level driver training the theory portion now again the behind the wheel portion adds an extra element that you’re going to have to factor into that.

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Jeremy Rose: But if you were a school bus operator, for example, right, you must go through class B, S and P endorsements and so that’s an extra chunk of time that you have to actually factor into that portion of the entry level driver training so.

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Jeremy Rose: Next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: So what are the topics I won’t read through all of these, but we will leave them on screen for a brief moment, once again, all of this information is on the electronic code of federal regulations website at www.ecfr.gov.

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Jeremy Rose: The sections for Class A our basic operation, safe operating procedures, advanced operating practices, vehicle systems and reporting malfunctions, and non-driving activities.

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Jeremy Rose: Please note that if you are interested in researching this information, the FMCSA has listed each of these topics with a prompt explaining the minimum information that must be covered by the topics.

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Jeremy Rose: that’s too much information to cover in this presentation, but if you have questions about a specific topic, please let me know during the Q&A next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: Here are the topics for Class B, once again I won’t read through all of them, but we will leave them on the screen briefly.

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Jeremy Rose: The eagle eyed among you might have noticed that the class B topics looks suspiciously like the class a topic that’s because they are.

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Jeremy Rose: The only topic difference between class A and class B is the coupling and uncoupling topic in section 1 being required for Class eight but not being required for Class B due to obvious reasons next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: And here are the hazardous materials endorsement topics, the vast majority of this is standard stuff and again it is meant to be the FMCSA goal here isn’t to reinvent the wheel, just to standardize the training that it takes to get behind what.

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Jeremy Rose: Next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: So, after all of that information, how do you get training. The short answer is to either find a training provider or to become one.

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Jeremy Rose: But that’s where things get a little bit more complicated to monitor and regulate these new requirements, the FMCSA has created the training provider registry.

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Jeremy Rose: training providers, for entry level driver training must be listed on the training provider registry, yes, that includes you if you are training your own driver trainees to obtain their CDL or an endorsement.

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Jeremy Rose: Becoming an approved training provider requires submitting an electronic application to the training provider registry self-certifying that you meet all.

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Jeremy Rose: The requirements, affirming under penalty of perjury that you will only teach the prescribed ELDT curriculum.

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Jeremy Rose: and maintaining documentation proving ELDT compliance in the event of an audit.

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Jeremy Rose: Once a training provider has been accepted, to the TPR there’ll be assigned a unique training provider ID number which will appear on a driver trainees record in the commercial driver’s license information system.

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Jeremy Rose: Next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: So, let’s say you want to become a registered trainer on the TPR in order to do that, you must meet one of the two following qualifications.

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Jeremy Rose: One, you must hold a CDL of the same or higher class and with all endorsements necessary to operate the CMV for which training is to be provided.

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Jeremy Rose: And you must have at least two years’ experience driving a CMV requiring a CDL of the same or higher class and or the same endorsement.

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Jeremy Rose: And you must meet all applicable state qualification requirements for CMV instructors or number two.

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Jeremy Rose: You must hold a CDL of the same or higher class and with all endorsements necessary to operate a CMV for which training is to be provided.

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Jeremy Rose: And you must have at least two years’ experience as a behind the wheel CMV instructor and meet all applicable state qualification requirements for seeing these instructors next slide please.

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Jeremy Rose: There are of course some exceptions to these rules.

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Jeremy Rose: Number one and instructor is not required to hold a CDL at the same or higher class and with all endorsements necessary to operate a CMV, for which training must be provided, if the instructor previously held a CDL of the same or higher class.

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Jeremy Rose: And still complies with the other requirements set forth in the first or second qualifications.

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Jeremy Rose: or number two training providers, offering online content exclusively are not required to meet state qualification requirements for theory instructors, though, it is important to note, they must still meet the other requirements.

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Jeremy Rose: Also, the note is, and this is very important if you’re going to be doing your own training have a note is that instructors CDL has been canceled suspended or revoked do to any of the disqualifying offenses identified in.

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Jeremy Rose: Of the CFR the instructor is prohibited from engaging in theory instruction for two years following the date his or her CDL is reinstated.

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Jeremy Rose: And for clarity, again, that is, two years following the date his or her CDL is reinstated, not two years following the date that they lost it and was suspended okay.

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Jeremy Rose: So, let’s say you’re a driver training and you go through all the required motions of ELDT, what happens after you complete your training.

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Jeremy Rose: It will have the name of the driver training a certificate certification statement and it will have the printed name of the person testing that the driver has received the required training, as well as the signature of that same person.

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Jeremy Rose: This certificate, along with the records of completion that are sent to the training provider registry are what allows a driver trainee to go take their CDL or endorsement test.

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Jeremy Rose: Without this proof a driver training will not be able to take their CDL or endorsement test.

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Jeremy Rose: And really that’s it for the basics of ELDT, as far as regulations go this one is honestly relatively benign, most of this training should be or is already being done.

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Jeremy Rose: The entry level driver training regulations just help standardize things and the creation of the TPR helps organize and streamline the information and tracking process that should go into this type of training.

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Jeremy Rose: So, with that I’m going to go ahead and hand this back over to Craig, will have a couple of information points and then we’ll move into the Q&A section.

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Craig Hart: Excellent um again I want to remind everybody, because now that we’ve gone through Jeremy’s presentation, you’re probably going whoo that was a lot.

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Craig Hart: It is, but once you dig into it a little bit it’s fairly clear, a lot of the content information that JEREMY was sharing, including the H endorsement content is content that we already have, or will have shortly.

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Craig Hart: I believe we are still working on some pieces of the H endorsement, right now, and the very good reason for that is.

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Craig Hart: That is auditable by the DOT so if it is not up to snuff that puts you at risk and us at risk, so we are making sure that all of our I’s are dotted and Ts are crossed before that is released.

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Craig Hart: But the other content we’ve had a rough version of the ELDT library.

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Craig Hart: Since it was initially supposed to go out years ago, so a lot of the content that you’re already seeing is already available in our training catalog For those of you who are already clients.

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Craig Hart: of ours for those of you who are not and would like to see how that all works, again we can do demos with you.

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Craig Hart: Actually, he would handle that and i’m going to go ahead and launch a quick poll question so if it’s something.

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Craig Hart: that you would like after this call to have what he reached out to you to set up a time so that you can go through that please respond to the poll questions that are on the screen right now.

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Craig Hart: And then another question that we have is we do have a sister company that we call BetterTruckDrivingJobs.com.

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Craig Hart: BetterTruckDrivingJobs.com is offering everyone on the call today free year of job postings and obviously.

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Craig Hart: We made it to front page news everybody the driver shortage is now on everybody’s lips, for all the wrong reasons.

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Craig Hart: Obviously, this is a problem, most of us saw coming and has been years in the works, but this visibility does mean that there are potentially eyeballs out there who are now looking at this industry is an opportunity to pursue, so we want to make that process easier for you all to do.

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Craig Hart: All right, we’ll go ahead and leave those up here now, a couple questions that we have already had come in.

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Craig Hart: To do to do going back through the chat here, and obviously at the rest of you do have questions, please leave those in chat.

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Mark Rhea: Mark you have a question for you, I had a quick question for.

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Mark Rhea: JEREMY the TPR will the to the training provider have a link to the state.

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Mark Rhea: to validate this completion, or they are completely dependent on a paper certificate.

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Jeremy Rose: So, the TPR is by design from the FMCSA the TPR is intended to automatically work with all state licensing agencies to sync up with their databases, so a training provider is required to provide the certificate of completion information to the TPR.

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Jeremy Rose: Within 48 hours of that completion, and then the TPR will then disseminate in theory that information to the State licensing agencies, alternatively, though, whenever the training provider.

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Jeremy Rose: The when the driver trainee finishes their field ELD training or entry level driver training.

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Jeremy Rose: They themselves will receive a certificate of completion, that if they need to they could take to their state licensing agency and they’ll have to do that, obviously, when they take their CDL skills test Okay, and a.

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Mark Rhea: TPR could be linked were several States they’re not isolated to just a individual state.

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Jeremy Rose: No, not that I’m aware of okay.

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Mark Rhea: And is there a is there a final exam for the for the entire portfolio of training videos.

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Jeremy Rose: there’s no requirement for a final exam a single final exam that is going to be dependent on each of the different training providers, the FMCSA does not have any regulations or clarification as far as what that.

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Jeremy Rose: What is required there only that there does need to be testing and that that testing needs to be an 80% minimum to pass.

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Craig Hart: And the way that we’re tackling that will be those subject topics broken out into individual modules or multiple modules and then quizzes at the end of each of those modules that will be done multiple choice.

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Craig Hart: And they will know right away whether they have passed that quiz or if they need to retake that particular subject, and they can certainly do so within the system they’re not locked out after a certain number of attempts.

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Craig Hart: On a particular topic, because we know people learn differently some folks may need to see the information two or three times before it clicks, and we would rather have them put in the work to be able to get that passing score.

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Craig Hart: We had a question here about the we are going to be a registered or are already a registered training provider Is that correct JEREMY.

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Jeremy Rose: We are already on the TPR we are just waiting for finalization to some of our different programs before we submit our programs each of the individual programs to the TPR, but we are already on the TPR and, yes, it is our intention to be.

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Jeremy Rose: On the training provider registry for Class A, B, S, P and H endorsement.

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Craig Hart: And the goal, there is, we want it, so that you all don’t have to worry about maintaining a library of course work overtime.

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Craig Hart: We have an entire team that does that that’s Jeremy’s organization within vertical Alliance Group and its full time job for JEREMY because

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Craig Hart: not only is it building out these courses initially it’s maintaining them over time so that they’re accurate with any changes to regulations it’s not just a one and done.

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Craig Hart: They are living and breathing courses that will need to be updated, over time, you guys don’t have the time to do that, amongst all the things that you do.

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Craig Hart: In a perfect world, if you did to take on this as part of internal process that you did, is that you would then be the skills training and skills test.

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Craig Hart: training providers, so the behind the wheel portion of the course work that we need to happen.

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Craig Hart: about the actual operation of your trucks safely in the verification of that that would be the piece, that you would potentially own if you wanted to go down that road, so we would be the theory side.

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Craig Hart: That driver skill side behind the wheel, that would be a potentially the part that you would own so.

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Craig Hart: just want to clarify that so.

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Craig Hart: So, but, but we do have the ability, I know we’ve had some questions in the past about how we could facilitate the training easily some folks were worried that they’d have to set up.

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Craig Hart: Training over and repeatedly for each individual and our system does allow you to build out templates which is basically prefilling training.

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Craig Hart: So that you just can rely on that template repeatedly, rather than having to go in and pick individual courses.

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Craig Hart: So you could set up a template or multiple templates and that’s, something that would he could talk with you about during that DEMO where.

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Craig Hart: All you have to do is then have the information for that that new training and just assign out that prefilled training that you already have set up as a convenience maker, so that.

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Craig Hart: The goal here is, we want it to function, the same as those of you who are already doing safety training and other custom content through us so that is not a new process that you have to learn.

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Craig Hart: We will have the ELDT coursework kind of warehouse separately so it’s easy to find and access, but you all can very easily set up.

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Craig Hart: A template I would, I would say, because of the number of items and the training that’s required.

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Craig Hart: 30 items, you were probably not going to want to do all at one time, you want to break that down into more manageable chunks we’re big fans of manageable chunks because that’s the best way that your brain retains information so.

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Craig Hart: it’s usually in the three-to-eight-minute mark is the ideal time frame for your brain to retain information it’s looking at.

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Craig Hart: We play to that and speak to that with our training material we don’t want to do.

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Craig Hart: Long form videos because you’re not going to remember what we talked about at the beginning of the video by the time you get done.

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Craig Hart: With a 45-minute training video it’s just not how our brain retains information and the best way I can illustrate that is you remember that TV show you watch last night.

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Craig Hart: You don’t remember what happened at the beginning of it by the time you got to the end of it just and that’s not on you that’s just the human brain so.

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Craig Hart: let’s see here we are any have any other questions that are coming in here, let me make sure we’re getting all of those keep them coming folks these are.

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Mark Rhea: One not one other question for.

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Mark Rhea: JEREMY as this as this matures as this mandate matures and changes over time, I would assume Jeremy and his team will keep this subscribers current on all those changes.

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Jeremy Rose: Absolutely, and as a part of our process to continually maintain and update any of our information as regulations change so if next year the FMCSA decides to add a couple topics to the ELDT requirements, we will update an add those and they’ll just be a part of the typical program.

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Mark Rhea: And is there a renewal does this need to be renewed.

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Mark Rhea: After the initial completion.

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Jeremy Rose: No, this is a one and done type scenario so once a driver training goes through their.

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Jeremy Rose: Entry level driver training and acquires their CDL, they are not going to have to do anything to renew that the only thing is, is if they were then to either upgrade that CDL or try to acquire a new endorsement.

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Craig Hart: Now, Chad has a great question for us, are they going to push this back like they’ve already done before and have done for other requirements I’ll let you take this one JEREMY.

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Jeremy Rose: Unfortunately, we cannot answer that question, that is, the FMCSA purview I will say this, though with the conversations that I’ve had with various officials and individuals from the FMCSA and from other associations.

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Jeremy Rose: Most if not all of the people involved in this are adamant about making this happen has already been pushed back before.

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Jeremy Rose: The people involved seem to be very serious about this deadline and making it happen this time around, however we’ve seen that in the past with the FMCSA so we’re going to be ready for it, whether or not they push it back.

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Craig Hart: But we do understand the hesitant you guys have.

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Craig Hart: The talks about how to talk about how some States don’t have the ability to do their part of the technology side of things which we completely understand trust us.

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Craig Hart: We work with those same organizations from time to time and those same challenges and we are moving faster.

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Craig Hart: than a lot of the State governments are when it comes to technology so but that unfortunately we are, we are moving forward with the hopes that it will be realized.

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Craig Hart: But again, it’s not something that we can guarantee they could come out tomorrow and tell us they’ve pushed the requirement back again and then way there we are so.

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Craig Hart: If a driver completes the class A ELDT requirements can they still legally drive a class B, or do they need to complete the class B also.

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Jeremy Rose: Oh no Apps right, the same scenario applies as our typical situation, a class A is still superior to a class B.

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Jeremy Rose: it’s more rigorous training and there’s more requirements well more requirements that go into a quote unquote right a class a allows you to drive any.

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Jeremy Rose: Not you need an endorsement for whatever else it is you’re going to be doing right so obviously driving a motor coach or something like that you would need a passenger endorsement.

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Jeremy Rose: For that particular vehicle if you wanted to drive a school bus, you need both the passenger and S endorsement, the school bus endorsement, or, if you want to go into HAZMAT you’ll need an H endorsement or a class A.

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Jeremy Rose: As far as the FMCSA has made the industry aware class, I still trump’s class B so gotcha.

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Jeremy Rose: As a company do, we still need to provide the current ELD training required to drive considering, we have a less.

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Jeremy Rose: We have a gap here where we’re at right now with February 7, 2022, so here’s the here’s the seal, everything that you’re required to do right now you are still required to do.

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Jeremy Rose: Up until February 7, 2022, after February 7, 2022, these entry level driver training requirements, replace the current entry level driver training requirements.

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Jeremy Rose: With a couple of caveats right and, and this is how the FMCSA as a kind of works, so we know how this this.

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Jeremy Rose: functions, you need to be on your game with this, there are certain things that you as an employer are going to have to continue doing right like you will still need to do a.

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Craig Hart: Okay, we got a question here from gave as a company do, we still need to provide the current ELD training required for drivers with less than a year experience until February 2022 answers, yes.

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Craig Hart: And that’s when it will change so if you do have people in your pipeline, now is the time to get them squared away so.

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Jeremy Rose: But if you’ve got some people that you need to take care of take care of the now it’s going to be a simpler process for you to go through at this current point in time might as well get it done with.

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Craig Hart: Absolutely, and then see here with the scenario recruiting a class A holder so it’s an existing class A driver has no H endorsement, all that will be needed for that H endorsement is to go through the theory training which Infinit-I will offer is that accurate.

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Jeremy Rose: Absolutely, there is no behind the wheel portion for hazardous materials endorsements, which means that you just need to go through the theory training and then go take your knowledge test and you’re good to go.

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Craig Hart: Excellent and that’s great question on here about documentation we do document everything that happens in our system.

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Craig Hart: Our system is online, for that reason, and regardless of device, regardless of whether they are using a web browser or one of the APP versions of our platform we record it all.

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Craig Hart: Because we want to make it trackable over time, so that you can go back and review it should you need to because.

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Craig Hart: If you do decide to become a registered training provider, there is an opportunity there that you could be audited, for your training records and Jeremy and I have talked about this offline that there would be a record keeping requirement for you as a training provider of three years.

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Craig Hart: That you would have to hold on to the training documentation and the good news is we hold on to all our training documentation and indefinitely we still have the first piece of training.

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Craig Hart: That we ever recorded back in 2010 when we started doing this for the very first time, we still have that should that company ever need to access it so we warehouse all of that, because.

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Craig Hart: We understand you need to have access to that information because it will be something that the government may want to look at.

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Craig Hart: Mark and I, we have talked a little bit about you know from a litigation perspective, this is absolutely something that plaintiff lawyers are looking at opportunities, where they can exploit this information.

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Craig Hart: So, we want to make sure that you’re buttoned up and then you’ve got all your I’s dotted and T’s crossed so.

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Craig Hart: Excellent so lots of great questions everyone Thank you so much for those.

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Jeremy Rose: looks like we’ve got another one, the will your H endorsement training cover the requirements or will I need to cover other material, so this is I’m going to answer this in two parts for clarity to make sure that that everyone gets exactly what they’re needed.

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Jeremy Rose: So, we as a training provider already have hazardous materials training content on our platform that training does not cover the entirety of the entry level driver training requirements.

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Jeremy Rose: We are in the process of updating that training and refining that training to cover a broader scope that is required by the FMCSA for ELDT.

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Jeremy Rose: And that training will cover everything that you need for entry level driver training so once we finished that and we push that live, then that will cover everything yes.

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Craig Hart: And then, when it comes time for the renewal on their hazmat would they be going through the same material over again.

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Jeremy Rose: FMCSA has for entry level driver training for H endorsement, are not the exact same for just your renewal.

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Jeremy Rose: So, there’s slight deviations they’re basically a couple of little additional base pieces of information that the FMCSA wants people to train on for the hazardous materials endorsement, rather than the renewal entry level driver stuff basically.

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Craig Hart: gotcha excellent and a question from Phyllis we are looking to hire a lower experienced or looking at a lower experience requirement down to six months if the driver driver currently has class A CDL.

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Craig Hart: That they need to do the ELDT training have higher the answer, there would only be if they were adding an endorsement if they’re adding that hazmat endorsement.

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Jeremy Rose: If they’ve already got their class say any driver who has a CDL right now, they are good to go come February 7 if that is still a valid CDL right.

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Jeremy Rose: If they have a valid CDL come February 7 they’re good to go or even if they have if you get someone their commercials learner’s permit then they’re still good to go if they get their CLD, before that CLP.

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Jeremy Rose: Not doesn’t run it basically.

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Mark Rhea: I would comment to fill us, I think it would be a good practice to do it, though not a requirement but it’s.

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Jeremy Rose: Very.

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Mark Rhea: yeah, so solid practice.

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Jeremy Rose: Absolutely as a as a training provider or a person who creates training right, I’m always going to suggest.

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Jeremy Rose: yeah, if you have the opportunity, do the ELDT stuff it’s going to teach your drivers good information it’s going to teach them good habits it’s worth it get in the habit of doing it and honestly doesn’t take that long.

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Jeremy Rose: rinse repeat.

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Craig Hart: Though it’s a great way to reinforce good behaviors, we know that in some cases.

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Craig Hart: revisiting this information, more than one time with an experienced driver yes, it’s things they have been taught before, perhaps even multiple times.

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Craig Hart: But you got you all you don’t realize how many times the silly things that we take for granted when it comes to safety, like seat belts are contributing to fatality accidents involving.

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Craig Hart: tractor drivers on the road so it’s worth revisiting that obviously putting together, maybe a little bit more palatable format, as part of an orientation.

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Craig Hart: Just to make sure that those folks are getting a touch on that.

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Craig Hart: Some of you may have questions that you just aren’t comfortable asking online I completely understand that, so Jeremy’s contact information is below here.

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Craig Hart: feel free to shoot him an email, there are still a couple things that we’re assessing out on our end when it comes to entry level driver training, we’re still working on our certificate formatting.

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Craig Hart: For example, which is why we did not have an example of what that looks like to show you today.

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Craig Hart: But when we do, we will be sharing that information and we’re also working on some different things when it comes to scoring and so forth, to establish some rules.

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Craig Hart: Right now, our platform gives companies, the option of allowing an individual student, the ability to see questions that they missed before they retake a section of their training.

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Craig Hart: And we’re working on the compliance of where we need to be on that whether we need to be.

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Craig Hart: allowing people to see those answers or potentially not allowing them to see those answers, so that when they’re getting a good score, they’re paying closer attention to the training material.

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Craig Hart: And that 80% is legitimately earned um let’s see would you suggest a company have a trainer on staff, even though we only hire current class A drivers.

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Jeremy Rose: Great question.

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Jeremy Rose: I’ve really wanted to jump in I’ve been eyeing this question, while you were talking.

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Jeremy Rose: And Craig I.

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Jeremy Rose: I really like this question.

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Jeremy Rose: So, from a regulatory standpoint, you have no requirement to do that from a safety culture standpoint, I would say absolutely have a trainer or you know.

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Jeremy Rose: You know, a safety person obviously most of the companies are going to have a safety training individual but.

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Jeremy Rose: If you don’t have a specific person who wears that hat in your company get that person right safety culture is a massive thing.

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Jeremy Rose: The companies that are the safest out there on the road that have the lowest insurance premiums that had the least accidents that have the see the CSA scores to back that up.

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Jeremy Rose: they’re the ones that have a safety culture and the people to push that safety culture forward so no there’s no there’s no regulatory requirement for you to have a trainer.

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Jeremy Rose: If you’re just hiring people that already have all of the CLD requirements or endorsements that you need but I’d still have someone there to go through this material and other material, obviously.

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Craig Hart: I’m seeing we are moving away from hiring inexperienced drivers, however, out of curiosity, how long will commercial learner’s permit last until it becomes null and void and someone must reapply what’s the typical expiration on that learner’s permit.

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Jeremy Rose: Mark you might need to feel.

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Mark Rhea: yeah I.

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Jeremy Rose: Think instead of this one for me.

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Mark Rhea: I think it’s 90 days and State of Texas, I think it changes from state to state.

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Jeremy Rose: State to State and then there’s also, I believe most States allow you to renew that CLP if you’re still within that time limit, you can renew it for an additional length of time.

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Jeremy Rose: So, and again, as long as you have a CLP or a renewed CLP and you get your CLD before that CLP expires before in this February 7, 2022, range right you still don’t have to worry about the ELDT requirements.

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Craig Hart: Excellent.

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Craig Hart: All right.

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Craig Hart: for everyone on the call today that joined us, we are going to be sending out a replay of today’s video we’re going to be sending out a copy of the presentation as well, so you can share those within your organization with anyone else that needs that information or.

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Craig Hart: or go back and reference it yourselves we’re also going to provide you a link to a great document the FMCSA put together, which is kind of a how to become.

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Craig Hart: A registered training provider, so those of you that want to take this step can follow those steps that the FMCSA outlines, so that you can make that happen for your organization.

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Craig Hart: But otherwise Thank you all so much for joining us today, we appreciate your time we hope you got a lot out of it we did cover a lot of ground here with Jeremy and.

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Craig Hart: We JEREMY, thank you for being here with us Mark it’s always a pleasure Woody, we appreciate you and everyone else out there in TV land, we look forward to seeing you again real soon and be safe out there, everyone, thank you.